COLLECTION OF MONEY AND ITEMS IN ESTONIA WITH THE AIM TO HELP THE VICTIMS OF THE WAR IN OSSETIA (GEORGIA)
By Helga on Tuesday, August 12 2008, 02:44 - Permalink
A little bit about Ossetia (the dates are in the European sistem):
10 /11/1989 - the Soviet of the People’s deputies of Southern Osezia decided to trasform Ossetia in an autonomous Republic.
20/09/1990 - the Soviet of the People’s deputies of Southern Osezia proclaimed the Soviet Democratic Reoublic of Southern Osezia.
1 /09/ 1991 – the Soviet Democratic Republic of Southern Ossetia was renamend into Republic of Southern Ossetia which wasn’t recognized by Georgia and other countries in spite of two referendums with international controllers-inspectors, so there the right to self-determination was denied. (http://npest.moy.su/forum/40-290-1 in Russian)
7/08/2008 – Georgia attacked Ossetia with the aim to exterminate all its citizens and take the land.
10/08/2008 – the President of Abkhazia Sergei Bagapsh invited to process the President of Georgia for crimes commited in Southern Ossetia classified as genocide. The Minister of the external affairs of Georgia Salome Zurabishvili declared that the aim of the conflict is to garantee and increase the presence of the USA and Great Britagne in Georgia (in according with the American Plan of the Dominion of the World – REBUILDING AMERICA’S DEFENSES Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century). Russia has entered in conflict initially to protect the Southern Ossetia citizen but later has begun a war against Giorgia (it seems so).
The Izrailien site “Boska” has observed that the USA have gathered the militar ships nearby Iran in Persian Gulf while Russia is busy in Georgia (http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5499).
The Southern Ossetia people is a small nation as the Estonian nation and it is not absolutely normal that the Estonian Government doesn’t help this small nation – Estonia has had the same problem with the independency…
Why the Kosovo’s citizens have the right to independence and the Southern Ossetia citizens don’t have? The human rights are not equal and the same for all? The right to self-determination are not valid for all nations?
The President of Georgia declare that he wants to restore the Constitutional order , so if the Russia began wanting to restore the USSR or the Russian Imperium’s Constitutional order it will be right? (the USSR and the Imperium were destroid and remade without observing the Constitutional rools and lows, that means that the USSR and Imperium must be restored?)
The Estonian Government gather the money for helping the Georgians – victims of the Russian Army, omitting and denying completely to help to the victims of the Georgians. Why such a discrimination?
All people living in the zone of the conflict are the victims of the war – today the peoples continue to be victims of the politicians and Governments, today we can see the crimes of the regime of the “democracy” – unfortunately, nothing changes excepting the name of regime… but all victims have the right to help.
Here below the texts of one Estonian Organization that is intent to help the Southern Osezia civil citizens.
Non profit organization “Spisok Klenskogo” (Klensij’s list) of Tallinn, Estonia
Press release
The militar aggression of the Georgia against the civil inhabitants of Southern Ossetia (70.000 persons) uses the tactics of the “burnt lend”.
The President of Georgia Saakashvili is using the genocide and ethnic cleaning sistems, he is interested in taking the Osseta land and not in taking care of its citizens. Saakashvili has begun a new adeventure with the help of the West.
The city of Tshinval and some villages doesn’t exist more. The bombs have been throuwn on hospitals, civil districts, educational establishments.
This is a NATO signature with a Hitler’s taste, which the Georgian Authorities have adopted with the permission of the West after former Jugoslavia and Irak.
After showing the barabarian essence, the Georgian Authorities justify own terrrorism as a reaching of democracy and welfare. We have a question: why they are doing it by damaging the small nations living in Georgia and conducting the politics of explicit colonialism?
The indifference of the Western countries, including the Estonian Government, in such a situation is amazing. The Estonian President has expressed his compassion only to Georgian Authorities and Georgian citizens denying the compassion to victims of the Giorgian Governmet, hypocritically inviting for peace.
For the Commission of International Affairs of the Estonian Parliament the Nato and European Union's interests are more important than the destiny of the victims of the war in Ossetia and Georgia. There are more and more refugees, orphans, casualties. Georgia has abandoned to a Fortune thouzends of children, women, the old – all civil population.
The European Union and OBSE keep silence. The Estoniand Red Cross is indifferent too as the Associations which selectively defend the rights of the unrecognized small nations of the world.
Only Russia have been announcing the humanitarian help to the victims of the Georgian war.
The non-profit Organization “Spisok Klenskogo” (Klenskij’s list) have decided to join and give help to the civil victims of militar conflict in Southern Osezia. We would like to create the Center of the help where could collaborate all public organization of our country.
It’s possible to send money to the next account: 10010473211011 SEB Ühispank
We have a dialog with the privat entrepreneurs and businessmen and we are ready to go into Kavkaz to bring our help. The victims need the objects of primary necessity, household appliances and other, not only money.
We elaborate the precise rools for avoid abuses in spending this money.
We don’t trust to the Estonian Red Cross – this organization have omitted to help the children – victims of Beslan, and there is not clear enough where the gathered money was desappeared.
The indipendent guarantors and controllors of our activities are Klaus Dorrnemann (a Germanian citizen who was brutally struck in the 2007 by the Estonian Policy with the abuse of power) who have a goog knowledge in the Red Cross and Serghey Seredenko – a famous Estonian legal and the human rights defender, the head of the projekt “The Russian Ombudsman in Estonia”.
We will use the methods of “glasnosnt” and trancparency in our activity, the Estonian mass-media have promised to give us free help in this question.
We are sure that giving help to the civil victims of Southern Ossetia we will demonstrate a solidarity of simple people, and we have a hope that the appetites of the militar countries will diminish.
Non-profit Organization “Spisok Klenskogo”
Tallinn, the 9-th of August 2008
The contact number: +372 / 539 87 272
E-mail: dimitri.klenski@gmail.com
Klaus Dornemann, Generalbevollmächtiger
Tel 00372 685 3744, e-mail kdorne@gmx.de
Helga
Comments
It's Klenski's private bank account number.
Nice scam;)
7/08/2008 – Giorgia attacked Osezia with the aim to exterminate all its citizens and take the land.
Sure. Belive Russian(One side in the conflict) media (Russian media, not free. Scores 144th according to Reporters Without Borders 2007 media freedom rankings.).
No comment to Olga - she is as diligently as ever spreading blunt propaganda and blatant lies.
To Heh, Kass and others - see this:
http://governmentdirt.com/war_in_th...
Shota Abramidze, a 73-year-old retired engineer, said Gori residents wanted the Russians out.
"They've stolen everything. They've bombed everything. This is fascism, that's what this is."
Along the main highway from Gori to Tbilisi, Russian peacekeepers stopped cars and checked documents of passengers. In Gori itself, Russian troops limited access to residents and turned away foreign journalists. In a back alley, dozens of people waited for promised food.
At a military training school in the mountain town of Sachkhere, a Georgian sentry said Russian tanks and armored personnel carriers had shown up the day before and demanded to be let in, leaving only after a 30-minute standoff. He said the Russians vowed to blow up facilities in the village of Osiauri.
nice people aren't they?
Dear Glay,
Would You be so kind to present the prooves for Your assertions?
It would be interesting for all.
Are You in Georgia now? Have You seen all by Yourself? Are You capable to say the exact numbers?
Today we all know that it was Gerogia to "bomb everything" and not Russia ;-). It was said even in American TV by two witnesses - 12-years old girl and her aunt. So, the frase You used is reffered to Saakashvili regim, not to the Russians.
Some journals write that the Georgians say thank to Russia and ask the Russians to remain there with aim to be protected against the pro-American Fascist regim of Saakashvili and against Nato. The Russians didn't kill the civil population like the Georgians did. The Saakashvili's regim is defined as fascism by Georgian population (like the regimes of Estonia, Latvia, Ukraina and some other post-soviet countries are).
Today we all know that the war was organized and ordered by America in according with the plan of "Rebuilding America's Defenses" (compared to Hitler's Mein Kampf by some scientists - http://www.informationclearinghouse...), many countries have given the weapons to Georgia especially for attacking and exterminating of Ossetia and Abkhazia civil population (= organized genocide), someone suspects an Israel's hand - we know that Saakashvili bombed Ossetia but we don't have any more sure information, unfortunately the mass-media play their show and hid the facts by fraude of information. The first information was wholly fraude.
The Union of the Georgian Men of Russia declare that the Russians are their brothers and that Saakashvili is a "small fùrer" (http://life.ru/video/5084 ).
Some independent information is here:
http://westnik-2012.ucoz.ru/news/20...
http://www.nebog.com/truthaboutwar....
http://osetian.com
http://www.informationclearinghouse...
http://www.informationclearinghouse...
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Some information:
http://osgenocide.ru/
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The Georgian Military School is an American School - did You know it? The presence of the Americans in Georgia attests the interferences into the internal affairs and absence of the real independency.
Accusing and defaming Russia without paying attention to the crimes and interferences of America is not wise enough. The controls and severe actions are necessary to cease the war and grant peace. For example, in Iraque and Afganistan the Americans and its Nato accomplices really kill the civil population - why don't You protest and don't accuse???
The list of the crimes of the Americans:
http://www.usinfo.ru/intervencyiind...
I don't protect Russia in case if the Russians have really done some bad thing, but I dont understand because You don't mention the Americans and their awful crimes? And the crimes of Georgians?
The double-face behavour's mode could conduct directly into the 3 World War.
Helping school in the city of Tskhinval N5!
Already the third week of the initiative group of five social organizations in Tallinn and North-East Estonia, together with the Ossetian national-cultural society "Il" in Estonia to campaign assistance to the civilian populations affected by armed conflict on the border of South Ossetia and Georgia.
The head of the initiative group of journalist Dimitry Klensky
(tel. 53987272, dimitri.klenski @ gmail.com) and executive director of Ossetian society "Il" Lyudmila Digoeva (tel. 6216464, digoeva@mail.ru) are in constant contact, daily exchange of data collected money.
"Recently we were informed of Tshinvala that our assistance to adopt School Number 5, situated in the heart of the city - said Lyudmila S. Digoeva - I had talks with the director of this school Bestaevoy Azoy Aleksandrovnoy and zavuchem Bekoevoy Rosa Konstantinovnoy".
They reported that heavily damaged the school after the shooting Tshinvala on the night of Aug. 8. The school prepares official documents, according to which the initiative group and society "Il" and guaranteed to be able to officially list the money collected in Estonia at the expense tshinvalskoy school.
Negotiations are continuing on the details. Perhaps the school will ask for money for specific equipment necessary school. Then the money collected will be transferred from Tallinn to pay bills submitted from Tskhinvali.
To date, the initiative group, which includes Russian Culture Center of the North-East (A. Hmyrov), a society of veterans of Afghanistan in Tallinn, Estonia "Combat Brotherhood" (O. K. Kulikov and Pax), non organization "Night Watch" (L. Neschadimova ), A social movement "Our Party - the party of fairness Estonia" (A. S. Kornilov and Tatevosyan), Estonian society former child prisoners of fascism (B. Zimin) and "Spisok Klenskogo MTÜ" (Yu Zhurba and D. Klensky), collected 58 thousand crowns, and Osetinskoe society "Il" (Digoeva and L. L. Lolaev) - more than 11 thousand crowns.
To our appeal and have already joined enumerated 10 thousand kroner Narvsky energoprofsoyuz (leader - V. Alexeev).
Representatives of the initiative group urged social organizations to join the action and money at list any тих below accounts.
At the end of the campaign held a press conference, which will have to tell and how Estonian media hinder the spread of our appeals. Most of them do not respond to our treatment, and those who responded, asked to pay for an ad, as… advertising.
Also will be presented documents from the totals on both accounts. Give them back, because the action continues.
The bank SEB on non organization Spisok Klenskogo MTÜ 10220088258013 c marked "Annetus Lõuna Osseetia".
In Hansabank Osetinskoe at the national-cultural society "Il" 1120250496 marked "Alania / Osseetia".
Interim, as money, resulting information to replenish these accounts can be found online at portals www.slavia.ee, www.dozor.ee and www.npest.moy.su / forum
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